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Old 14th January 2014, 10:09 PM   #11
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Permasalahan pokoknya IMOO adalah sikap mental pengelola CGK (AP 2) dan juga Pemerintah Pusat (CGK adalah Main Gate ke Ibukota negara terbesar ke 4 di dunia, Kota tempat Sekretariat ASEAN berada.. jd IMO, Pemerintah Pusat seharusnya jg sangat concern thdp keberadaan CGK), jelas nampak mereka tak punya visi lebih jauh ke depan, tp lebih berpuas diri dengan cara kerja "tambal sulam".. padahal yang ditangani / yang dikelola adalah sebuah bandara yang "sangat besar" untuk melayani sebuah kota yang merupakan Ibukota sebuah negeri yg merupakan "kekuatan ekonomi terbesar di Asia Tenggara"...
Kalau ga salah, dulu 'master plan' CGK adalah untuk menampung 90 juta penumpang / tahun.. sedari awal dibangun, seharusnya Pemerintah Pusat sudah mengeluarkan Peraturan / UU yg bertujuan utk 'mengamankan' kepentingan CGK, termasuk soal kedudukan secara administratif (sehingga tdk perlu terjadi "adu otot" antara Jakarta dan Banten).. dan dicadangkan lahan yang cukup bagi pengembangan CGK sampai 50-100 tahun kedepan, sehingga tidak bisa orang2, siapapun,.. mematok, membangun struktur apapun di luar peruntukan CGK sbg airport termasuk bikin lapangan golf !
Lalu.. disaat sekarang sudah mulai muncul "permasalahan" (termasuk masalah daya tampung / daya dukung CGK sbg airport besar) seharusnya Grand Design yg dibuat dan di bangga2kan itu tidak hanya utk proyeksi "dapat menampung sampai dengan 62 jt penumpang" /tahun... juga seharusnya sudah tdk bisa ditawar-tawar lg Re-vitalisasi infrastruktur CGK termasuk SDM yg kelas dunia...
welleeeh... kok jd ngoceh yakk..?? dasar hihihi..
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Old 14th January 2014, 10:17 PM   #12
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^ setuju banget.

Kalo menurut aku ujung2 nya sebenarnya DUIT .. orang kita ijo melihat duit dan pengen dinilai sukses dengan punya materi ...

Bedakan dengan orang jepang ... yg pekerja keras, dan sukses dinilai dengan prestasi
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^ setuju banget.

Kalo menurut aku ujung2 nya sebenarnya DUIT .. orang kita ijo melihat duit dan pengen dinilai sukses dengan punya materi ...

Bedakan dengan orang jepang ... yg pekerja keras, dan sukses dinilai dengan prestasi

iya.. orang Jepang, kalo ketauan ga berprestasi atau bikin kesalahan... HARAKIRI !! ga perlu dilaporin polisi or kpk....
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Aircrafts queueing on taxiway at CGK... seems it's gonna get worse and worse !

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Old 14th January 2014, 10:36 PM   #15
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^ a good ATC should have been able to control 3 minutes interval per take off and landing
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Old 14th January 2014, 11:42 PM   #16
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MASTER PLAN of CGK toward World Class Airport (???)


EXISTING (aerial view)






MASTER PLAN


Master Plan 1 (rencana awal)


Master Plan 2 (rencana baru a.k.a Grand Design)


Adakah diantara forumers di sini yang bisa melihat bahwa yang dibangga-banggakan sebagai "Grand Design" itu ternyata : tetap sangat jauh dari rencana awal untuk membuat CGK menjadi airport yg bisa menampung 90jt penumpang / tahun ?
Kalau diperhatikan secara seksama... itu ga bs disebut Grand Design utk sebuah Airport sebesar CGK... apalagi kalau melihat Design Extension Terminal-3 seperti berikut :


Design 1 Pengembangan Terminal-3 CGK (rencana awal)


Design 2 Pengembangan Terminal-3 CGK (rencana akhir / Under-Construction)
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Old 15th January 2014, 12:10 AM   #17
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^ desain CGK itu indah bangets ... unique dan indonesiana ...

tapi orang design minimalis tidak melihat itu ... jadilah T3 dan T4 yang TIDAK senafas dan seirama design T1 dan T2.

Coba kalau T3 dan T4 juga menggunakan design setengah linkaran ...
pasti jadi paling indah di dunia di lihat dari atas CGK ini ...

Personally say, ... I am sad with their sacrificing traditional design and unique of CGK
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I actually, honestly, very proud of the architecture design of the Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 Soetta .. second to none in the world like it ..
Even many of my foreign colleagues are so admire and provide a very high appreciation for the uniqueness and beauty of Soetta Terminals 1 and Terminal 2. Comment that has most frequently said is: they are tired of the new airports in many countries that are similar to each other in term of the building architecture.
Regarding the Master Plan Soetta, I remain of the opinion that both the Airport Management /operator (AP 2) and the central government appears to really only do "modest" efforts. From the observation of the pictures of existing Master Plan, seems the opinion of to be that in this Soetta problems, very thick with the "money game".. is true. There are at least two peculiarities seen in the Master Plan they called "Grand Design", namely:
# 1. Why the existing Golf Course should be maintained? what's the benefit of a golf course for an airport?
# 2. Why the Terminal-3 development plans are currently underway, even trimmed apron capacity .. Previously planned 5 piers will be built, with a total of 120 aviobridges, the new design being only 2 wings on the left and right ends of the terminal building with a total of only 30s aviobridges to be assembled.
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^ money and politics
plus individual who wants to be richer [MAYBE this i cannot confirm]

I will give you one information circulating on the net in regards to T3 previously.

It was Emirates who wants to fly A-380 for its DBX-CGK as the occupation rate is high. It was on the plan, and I think this plan also conveyed to Indonesia (govermnment or afficer).

T3 will be provided with double garbarata to accomodate the A-380 ...

But what happen now ..?

You see T3 is a small tiny ... LUCU airport ...
to it's even funnier ... they called it the Green Airport karena banyak kaca.

Padahal dengan banyak kaca, butuh AC yang lebih besar kapasitas nya ...
ujung2 nya boros energi ... ha ha ha
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Indonesian Flag Carrier ~ GARUDA INDONESIA ~



GARUDA INDONESIAN AIRWAYS (1949 - 1960)



Douglas DC-3 "SEULAWAH" which presented by the People of Aceh in 1949,
is the forerunner of the Indonesian airline, Garuda Indonesian Airways (now Garuda Indonesia)




photo credit : RuthAS



First Jet Aircraft owned by Garuda Indonesia Airways (GARUDA INDONESIA)



Garuda Indonesian Airways Convair_990-30A PK-GJA at Schipol Netherland, 20.06.1967 (edited by RuthAS)


Garuda Indonesian Airways PK-GJA, Convair_990-30A at "Kemayoran International Airport" Jakarta, 1967




GARUDA INDONESIAN AIRWAYS - New Livery (1960 - 1980)


Garuda Indonesian Airways PK-GLC, Lockheed 188 Electra, 1961.



Garuda Indonesian Airways PK-GFL, F27 Mk 600 at DPS



Garuda Indonesian Airways PK-GVS, Fokker_F28-1000 - Volpati-1



Garuda Indonesian Airways PK-GEB Douglas DC8-55, by: Michel Gilliand




GARUDA INDONESIAN AIRWAYS - New Livery (1980 - 1985)


Garuda Indonesian Airways PK-GEB Douglas_DC-8 @Kemayoran International Airport JKT



Garuda Indonesian Airways PK-GNS DC9


Garuda Indonesian Airways PK-GIC DC-10, by:Eduard Marmet, 1979



Garuda Indonesian Airways PK-GSA Boeing-747, at Zurich Airport, May 1985







~ GARUDA INDONESIA ~ - New Brand Image by Landor (1985 - Now)




"GARUDA INDONESIA" McDonnell Douglas MD-11, by: Michel Gillian, 1994-Paris


Garuda Indonesia PK-GIJ MD-11, by : Paul Spijkers.



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